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richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've known him for many year, but so is ambassador rice. i've known her. she's for thorough professiona. the u.n. ambassador is a cabinet member. but the u.n. ambassador's role is in new york dealing with security counsel, sanctions on iran, sanctions on north korea. you're not in the daily ma maelstrom in washington, d.c. the information that the intelligence community provided her at the time, but that intelligence changes. so i think the president is right, to back his people. secondly, to say that ambassador rice was deceptive is wrong. she is reading from pieces of paper that you get every morning from either a
richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've...
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there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of leaving afghanistan as stable and secure as possible. and whatever his decision is going to be, that's going to be his legacy. so that's going to be his responsibility. >> is there anybody else who's stepping up on the john mccain side of this? i mean, at this point john mccain is a noun and verb and don't cut and run. he's really -- i feel like his credibility on foreign policy issues is getting pretty wispy at this point. is there anybody else who's taken the place of him as he becomes less and less relevant? >> mark kirk, kelly ayotte, marco rubio. prepared to carry this water on the republic
there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of...
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mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction of what had transpired hours before in cairo. almost a copycat of the demonstrations at our facility in cairo. >> at his news conference, a visibly angry obama fired back. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her representation is outrageous. >> well, mccain didn't want to have the president to have the last word. and he raced to the senate fl
mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi...
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if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. and we're after an election now. i think it is important for us to find out exactly what happened in benghazi and i'm happy to cooperate in any way that congress wants. we have provided every bit of information that we have and we will continue to provide information and we've got a full-blown investigation and all that information will be disclosed to congress. i don't think there's any debate in this country when you have four americans killed, that's a problem. and we've got to get to the bottom of it and there needs to be accountability. we have to bring those who carried it out to justice. they won't get any debate from me on that. when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then
if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. and we're after an election now. i think it is important for us to find out exactly what happened in benghazi and i'm happy to cooperate in...
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i think lindsey graham was right. general petraeus should exercise. he should testify to lay those doubts to rest. i don't know what happened and why he resigned. i don't know the internals. i will bet dollars to donuts that there was a voluntary aspect to this, that he himself felt under the circumstances he should resign, that that was the honorable thing to do. >> distinction is whether he should lose his reputation and his job and i think david is right, don't let the worst thing about a person become the true thing about him. what is the standard for everybody in the sky? they would probably be out if the person they had an affair with had access to their e-mail as a security breach kind of thing. so he probably has to if-- >> why did she have acitose hi access to his e-mails? >> we don't know. but in terms of his job, keeping secrets and not letting people have access to secret things tseems to me you can't stay in that job, separate and aparent from his reputation. it seems lindsey graham, even if you're on the left or right, even if you have t
i think lindsey graham was right. general petraeus should exercise. he should testify to lay those doubts to rest. i don't know what happened and why he resigned. i don't know the internals. i will bet dollars to donuts that there was a voluntary aspect to this, that he himself felt under the circumstances he should resign, that that was the honorable thing to do. >> distinction is whether he should lose his reputation and his job and i think david is right, don't let the worst thing...
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john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning the president at the press conference made it clear that four americans did lose their lives and he's deeply concerned about that. and we all should be. but republicans e especially senators mccain and graham, have been beating up on u.n. ambassador susan rice every single day for the last two months. and the president stood up to that bullying today. take a listen. >> to bring those who carried it out to justice. they won't get any debate from me on that. but when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a
john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning...
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at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media cannot allow it to stand, but we know better. we can be assured that the media will, for the most part, actually allow it to stand. liar lindsey graham will continue to be invited on tv shows where that statement will not be called a lie. it may be challenged, but it will not be called a lie. liar lindsay graham, of course, has an open invitation to come on this program and retract his lie or try to get away with it again and see how that works out for him here. liar lindsey graham and john mccain are the same who had no problem for another named rice, after she failed miserably as george bush's nation
at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media...
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>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked about the fiscal cliff. he laid down the law you saw him there. he wants the tax cuts extended for everybody under $250,000 and got to general petraeus and this whole intertwined story with benghazi, that's when it got really rough. the president took out after republicans namely john mccain and lindsey graham for the criticism leveled at susan rice. the u.n. secretary, shortly after the attacks that resulted in the death of four americans, she went on "meet the press" and other sunday shows and said what happened in benghazi was the result of a spontaneous protest that morphed in to something else and resulted in the dea
>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked...
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. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power f
. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can...
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and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to nominate her or not. do you think they have the chops to do that? >> sure. in the senate, it only takes a couple of people to filibuster. and then there aren't the 60 votes. and if they go through with this, if they don't back down, it will be hard for her to get confirmed. that's the reality of the u.s. senate. so it seems to me and i think a lot of other people that the president and senator mccain need to get together, you know, not have a beer summit, maybe drink something harder, and, you know, try to work this out and establish some kind of
and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to...
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but that's basically what john mccain and lindsey graham are saying. that she wasn't responsible for benghazi, so why did the white house put her out there? and they're saying only for political rains. and they criticize ambassador rice for not asking more questions. she got a briefing. she got a briefing on the latest intelligence, says the white house. the white house says they're the ones that put her out there. so if what she said turns out not to be true later, they should take the blame. but, boy, what a fierce defense. i'm not holding my breath much longer on seeing who his nominee is probably going to be for secretary of state. >> and wants to have a fight. interesting, though, there's no greater defender of david petraeus, we'll talk about in a moment, than john mccain. he has been a longtime champion. and she got intelligence briefing, that was coming from david petraeus, isn't that right? >> that was certainly contributed to by david petraeus, and jim clapper and they were pretty critical of clapper, but i didn't hear much criticism of petra
but that's basically what john mccain and lindsey graham are saying. that she wasn't responsible for benghazi, so why did the white house put her out there? and they're saying only for political rains. and they criticize ambassador rice for not asking more questions. she got a briefing. she got a briefing on the latest intelligence, says the white house. the white house says they're the ones that put her out there. so if what she said turns out not to be true later, they should take the blame....
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if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me and i'm happy to have that discussion with them but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and as the smirch her reputation. rageous well shortly after the president finished his remarks senator graham released a statement saying mr president don't think for one minute i don't hold you ultimately responsible for a magazine i think you failed as commander in chief before during and after the attack we owe to the american people in the victims of this attack to have full fair hearing hearings and accountability be assigned where appropriate given what i now know i have no intention of promoting anyone who is up to their eyeballs in the big ozzy debacle graham has been very vocal in attacking president obama over been gaza but where was he on nine eleven where were the hearings on nine eleven into bush's intelligence failures you know five different major allies including is
if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me and i'm happy to have that discussion with them but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and as the smirch her reputation. rageous well shortly after the president finished his remarks senator graham released a statement saying mr president don't think for one minute i don't hold...
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it is not just john mccain and lindsey graham. there are others raising questions about the potential for susan rice to be elevated to secretary of state. they have serious questions they say while the president says that susan rice was giving information given to her by the intelligence community, the questions these republicans are asking include why did the station chief in benghazi report in realtime, they say, it was a terrorist attack right away? there is a definite disagreement about the facts and question of republicans why susan rice was put in this question. they say as u.n. ambassador, why was she the spokesperson on the issue of benghazi in the first place and appeared on the morning shows as you discussed. senators point out it's their constitutional role to advise and consent on the nominations and push back when they see fit. they said what about condaleeza rice? wasn't that disqualifying and those was -- that was a different time and other countries agreed with the u.s. at that time that there was a danger of weapo
it is not just john mccain and lindsey graham. there are others raising questions about the potential for susan rice to be elevated to secretary of state. they have serious questions they say while the president says that susan rice was giving information given to her by the intelligence community, the questions these republicans are asking include why did the station chief in benghazi report in realtime, they say, it was a terrorist attack right away? there is a definite disagreement about the...
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if senator mccain and graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, bemichelle her reputation -- besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> greg: what is going on here? and rage over criticism of benghazi sparks th spark -- exce rage of benghazi. it's kind of sexist. the juvenile bravado that scared the npr correspondent. outraged that he is picking on her. he doesn't think she can take care of herself. what he offered the same protection to male ambassador? see benghazi. is his anger legitimate? >> andrea: no. >> greg: no? >> andrea: let me think about that. no. he stood up there and said come after me. easy to say in a room full of reporters that he knows won't come after him. he said he's protecting the susan rice but it's okay to make hillary the human shield to take the fall for benghazi? >> dana: she turned that right around. >> andrea: all roads in this blame game shift back to the c
if senator mccain and graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador, who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, bemichelle her reputation -- besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> greg: what is going on here? and rage over criticism of benghazi sparks th spark -- exce rage of benghazi. it's kind of sexist. the juvenile bravado that scared the...
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi? and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation, it's outrageous. >> "outfront" tonight, rand paul of kentucky. he serves on the homeland security committee and senator paul, senator lindsey graham responded, i wanted to quote it. mr. president, don't think for one minute i don't hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi. i think you failed as commander in chief before, during and after the attack. i have no intention of promoting anyone who was up to their eyeballs in the benghazi debacle. >> i think there's two questions. everybody's been emphasizing whether or not it was right for her to go out and say this was caused by some crazy movie made by some low budget person in l.a., but i think really the more important question, is it really about whether it was caused by terrorism or a m
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi? and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and to besmirch her reputation, it's outrageous. >> "outfront" tonight, rand paul of kentucky. he serves on the homeland security committee and senator paul,...
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and to a lesser extent the same could be said by senator graham. for them to see that we have been attacked by enemies of the united states, our embassy and therefore the united states is being attacked, and sunsinstead joining in and seeing who the enemy was to find them and to bring them to justice, they have seen fit to jointly want to destroy the political career of an ambassador that was merely repeating the intelligence that was given to her. this is not what is expected of our heroes. clearly when a family, america, is under attack, you don't really take sides of the attacker and start charging malfeasance to the commander in chief. >> but, mr. rangel, mr. mccain, senator mccain says he wants more information, so he does a press conference. he goes to the floor of the senate. he appears on the "today" show. but he doesn't attend the briefing where he might have got some answers to his questions. >> well, i have to admit that a lot of us are addicted to the television screens rather than to the facts in this case, but i would hope that the se
and to a lesser extent the same could be said by senator graham. for them to see that we have been attacked by enemies of the united states, our embassy and therefore the united states is being attacked, and sunsinstead joining in and seeing who the enemy was to find them and to bring them to justice, they have seen fit to jointly want to destroy the political career of an ambassador that was merely repeating the intelligence that was given to her. this is not what is expected of our heroes....
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senator graham we appreciate your time. >> coming up. when you listen to senator gr a aham do you get a sense that we are looking at anything other than gridlock? every one will say it is a roadblock. you do have leader read saying i'm not going to draw any lines in the sand. speaker boehner feels burned. he thought he had a deal with the president. and he thinks the president walked away from it. the president gives up higher taxes on the rich. republicans give up something on the short-term and more on the long-term. that is going to be the dance and the stakes are great. >> he did get re-elected on this and he has been clear on this issue. this was a major thing that he ran on. yes, and he said if he got a bill that did not include the end of tax hikes for the wealthy, he would veto it. you know the pressure i think is on all of them but let's remember the pressure for the president. one of the things that is difficult about a coalition that puts you in office is every part of the coalition wants to protect something. they think they
senator graham we appreciate your time. >> coming up. when you listen to senator gr a aham do you get a sense that we are looking at anything other than gridlock? every one will say it is a roadblock. you do have leader read saying i'm not going to draw any lines in the sand. speaker boehner feels burned. he thought he had a deal with the president. and he thinks the president walked away from it. the president gives up higher taxes on the rich. republicans give up something on the...
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you have john mccain and lindsey graham both saying if her nomination is put forward, they will filibuster it. are there any indications that that would become an official republican party position, because if the republicans unite, they would have the 40 votes to kill it by filibuster. >> there is a lot of opposition among republicans to a potential susan rice nomination. people are not actively talking about filibuster, although that's the obvious presumption if you talk about members trying to block something like this. in some was they are saying that she was schoezen bied white house to be the public face in the early days after the attack to talk about what happened. if she were to become secretary of state, she would need sort of a greater sense of recognizing that the story that was being put forward might not be accurate. they're sort of compelling her to have greater knowledge than what was given to her by the intelligence community. she has become a political focus here. whether they actually go forward with that or not is a matter to be decided later. what it has done in the mo
you have john mccain and lindsey graham both saying if her nomination is put forward, they will filibuster it. are there any indications that that would become an official republican party position, because if the republicans unite, they would have the 40 votes to kill it by filibuster. >> there is a lot of opposition among republicans to a potential susan rice nomination. people are not actively talking about filibuster, although that's the obvious presumption if you talk about members...